gays, brunch waitresses and biblical relativists

Pastor Rick Warren says: “Moral relativism is the root of what is wrong in our society.”

Sorry, fundamentalist and evangelical Christians – at the same time you condemn non-theists for your assumption that whatever morals they have are defined by their concupiscence and immediate personal and social expediency – as Relativists – you yourselves are Relativists when it come to the word of God.

In a post-Prejean moment, Lauren Ashley, self proclaimed Miss Beverly Hills in the Miss Universe Organization universe, told (who have taken down the original post, or hid it from search)

The Bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman. In Leviticus it says, “If man lies with mankind as he would lie with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death and their blood shall be upon them.” The Bible is pretty black and white.

The Miss Universe committee says they are proud to develop women who are not afraid to express their opinions.  The City of Beverly Hills points out Ms. Ashley is from Pasadena, has taken the moniker “Miss Beverly Hills” without their consent, and “condemns” her pronouncement, saying the city of Beverly Hills is, itself, a diverse, accepting community.


The passage Ms. Ashley quotes is Leviticus 20:13. The usual passage in the Bible – from among about 4 in that big book – quoted to show how “black and white” God is in condemning gay men.  Apparently God gives a free pass to lesbians.  And it’s been suggested that passage is actually an admonition against the accepted practice at the time for victorious soldiers to rape their vanquished foes.

As Andrew Sullivan in The Atlantic points out, this is a matter of life and death for many men, in Uganda and Iran, and elsewhere.

What Christians don’t so often quote is Leviticus 20:10

And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

God demands the same punishment – death – for your garden variety straight adulterers.

He also demands exile for a couple if they get together and it turns out she has started menstruating. (Leviticus 20:18)

And what does God command you to do in Exodus 35:2?

Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

God uses the same language to condemn brunch waitresses as He does homosexuals.

So why don’t Christians storm their local supermarket on Sunday morning and drag out and kill the cashiers?

You don’t because despite one of your favorite disdainful accusations against the non-religious, which I myself have been called – ” Relativist!” – you are the same when it comes to God’s word.


One response to “gays, brunch waitresses and biblical relativists

  1. Christians eating shellfish violate another law… Leviticus is full of laws that Christians violate every day and yet Christian relativists pick a select few to point to and say “AHA!” But what makes us Christian isn’t the Old Testament, it’s the New Testament. Jesus violated the Old Testament laws himself; for example, He healed on the Sabbath. Granted, that seems a bit more important than dishing up eggs Benedict, but it was enough of a “violation” that He was questioned by the religious leaders for doing it. But Christianity hinges on the two Great Commandments (Matthew 22:35-39): 35One of them, an expert in the law, tested him with this question: 36″Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” 37Jesus replied: ” ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38This is the first and greatest commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ It was from this that Christians broke with the Old Testament laws, seeing what Jesus did and said as a revocation of the OT laws. Mind you, many of the OT laws fall under the two Great Commandments – look at the Ten Commandments and each of them is either about loving and respecting God or loving and respecting your fellow man. Of course denominations differ on the finer points but Jesus had many opportunities to address a lot of the old Laws, and He never talked about Leviticus 20:13, which informs what I think of that passage.

    [mj climbs off soapbox]

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